westcalxvandy start your euro?
eytang8@yahoo.com nope
westcalxvandy bleh
westcalxvandy seen the campaign video yet?
eytang8@yahoo.com nope
westcalxvandy how do you do the math hw again?
eytang8@yahoo.com i dunno
westcalxvandy bleh
westcalxvandy halp me
eytang8@yahoo.com wah
eytang8@yahoo.com I'm reading Fahrenheit 451
westcalxvandy scary book
eytang8@yahoo.com not really
westcalxvandy joke
eytang8@yahoo.com It's the personification of a television society
westcalxvandy society
westcalxvandy is made up of people
eytang8@yahoo.com television controlled
westcalxvandy animalization of the reptile population
westcalxvandy is basically what you just said
eytang8@yahoo.com where people are separated from reality
eytang8@yahoo.com I didn't mean it literally ~_~
eytang8@yahoo.com are you cracked out or something?
westcalxvandy no
westcalxvandy making comparisons
westcalxvandy personifcation of people ~ animalization of animals
westcalxvandy *personification
eytang8@yahoo.com wat
westcalxvandy are you retarded?
eytang8@yahoo.com Your words are not making sense
westcalxvandy do you need a definition of every word that's not of in that sentence?
eytang8@yahoo.com try harder to convey your meaning
westcalxvandy you know what personification is?
eytang8@yahoo.com Yes, I am aware
westcalxvandy do you know what people are?
eytang8@yahoo.com Take it slow and use simple words so I can follow your thought process
eytang8@yahoo.com Yes, I am aware
westcalxvandy do you what animals are?
eytang8@yahoo.com yes
westcalxvandy animalization - To depict or represent in the form of an animal.
eytang8@yahoo.com yes
westcalxvandy you said "perfonication of society"
westcalxvandy society = people
westcalxvandy personification of people
eytang8@yahoo.com A society of television controlled society
westcalxvandy makes as much sense as
eytang8@yahoo.com sadfjklasdjfk
eytang8@yahoo.com PEOPLE CONTROLLED BY TELEVISION
westcalxvandy animalization of animals
eytang8@yahoo.com Do you understand?
eytang8@yahoo.com I said "television society"
westcalxvandy PEOPLE CONTROLLED BY TELEVISION = PEOPLE
westcalxvandy society
westcalxvandy is made up of people
eytang8@yahoo.com Fine, then the realization of a television world
eytang8@yahoo.com is more along the lines of what I meant
westcalxvandy lorl
westcalxvandy meaning conveyed
westcalxvandy redundance eliminated
eytang8@yahoo.com whew
westcalxvandy felt kinda like michio
westcalxvandy slapping people
westcalxvandy with what seemed like logic
westcalxvandy like your status
eytang8@yahoo.com Except it's not logic
eytang8@yahoo.com Society can be dehumanized
eytang8@yahoo.com Society can be personified
eytang8@yahoo.com It's not just people
westcalxvandy society
westcalxvandy represents
westcalxvandy people
eytang8@yahoo.com It's a grouping of people and the way they act as a group
eytang8@yahoo.com not just people
westcalxvandy but that doesn't apply to farenheit 451
westcalxvandy they are a television society
eytang8@yahoo.com Fahrenheit 451 shows a dehumanized society
westcalxvandy not really
westcalxvandy from modern humans
westcalxvandy well even then
westcalxvandy not really
eytang8@yahoo.com people are unconnected to the extreme
westcalxvandy is that what makes people people?
eytang8@yahoo.com Herded like dumb animals
eytang8@yahoo.com unable to think for themselves, and fixated on superficial things
westcalxvandy yeah
westcalxvandy people today
westcalxvandy are NOTHING like that...
westcalxvandy VOTE FOR THIS GUY
westcalxvandy OKAY
eytang8@yahoo.com I did not in any way say that it was completely unconnected to reality
westcalxvandy but your definition of a person is vague
eytang8@yahoo.com human beings are people
westcalxvandy humans = people
westcalxvandy okay
westcalxvandy humans being dehumanized...
westcalxvandy so the people in farenheit 451 aren't people?
eytang8@yahoo.com They are not so in the sense that they feel what we consider to be human emotion
eytang8@yahoo.com and have reasoning
westcalxvandy they have emotion
westcalxvandy they cry
westcalxvandy they are happy
westcalxvandy dogs have emotions too
eytang8@yahoo.com How about affection for other people?
eytang8@yahoo.com They rather lack that
westcalxvandy marriages, gatherings...
eytang8@yahoo.com it's only reacting to stimulants of action and drugs
westcalxvandy they're not social, but they still feel for other people
eytang8@yahoo.com Marriages? You call it emotion when you don't care that your third spouse in a row has died?
eytang8@yahoo.com When it's just a normal routine to have the excessive sleeping pills flushed out of your wife's blood?
eytang8@yahoo.com When your children are simply there to amuse you
westcalxvandy So humans feel emotions, but things that are not humans don't?
eytang8@yahoo.com and be ignored
eytang8@yahoo.com Humans have more emotion than computers, and more reasoning than animals
westcalxvandy Never said anything about reasoning
westcalxvandy and for that point humans have more reasoning than computers too
eytang8@yahoo.com not really
eytang8@yahoo.com Emotion is illogical
westcalxvandy 1. Use of reason, especially to form conclusions, inferences, or judgments.
eytang8@yahoo.com It's humans that limit a computer's logic
westcalxvandy is the definition of reasoning
westcalxvandy Can a computer infer?
eytang8@yahoo.com If it's formed correctly
westcalxvandy infer - To reason from circumstance; surmise
eytang8@yahoo.com If you give a computer all the information that a human has gained over a lifetime....
eytang8@yahoo.com and structure it
westcalxvandy I throw a computer out the window. I have programmed it to infer it's going to fall up.
westcalxvandy Which way is it headed?
eytang8@yahoo.com It is limited by your lack of logic
eytang8@yahoo.com You give it circumstances, and it will find the result
westcalxvandy But it doesn't infer
eytang8@yahoo.com plug in information of gravity and motion
westcalxvandy it doesn't reason
westcalxvandy It makes conclusion on programs instead of observation.
eytang8@yahoo.com It uses the given information to produce a logical result
eytang8@yahoo.com Where is the lack of reason in that?
westcalxvandy But inferences are what's made without information.
eytang8@yahoo.com But they are still founded in information
westcalxvandy Reasonable inference.
eytang8@yahoo.com If you give the computer information, it will reach a conclusion
eytang8@yahoo.com People are affected by aesthetics and preference
eytang8@yahoo.com as well as their own desires
westcalxvandy If computers could infer
westcalxvandy they'd rule the world by now.
eytang8@yahoo.com A person's preference for the color yellow over red cannot be defined
westcalxvandy They would be able to reach conclusions with their knowledge.
eytang8@yahoo.com We don't know how to define things in a way that they can process
eytang8@yahoo.com What we can give them, they process perfectly
westcalxvandy perfectly?
eytang8@yahoo.com 1+1=2
eytang8@yahoo.com 5^3=125
eytang8@yahoo.com If you can define it, a computer can process it
westcalxvandy Then computers would in theory have emotions.
westcalxvandy Look up happiness in the dictionary.
eytang8@yahoo.com How do you define emotion in code?
eytang8@yahoo.com In a way that a computer can process?
eytang8@yahoo.com Humans are unable to do it
eytang8@yahoo.com It's not a failiure of the computer
westcalxvandy It should be able to infer it by your logic.
eytang8@yahoo.com If we give it the information
eytang8@yahoo.com It can derive conclusions
eytang8@yahoo.com We can't
eytang8@yahoo.com I have to go
westcalxvandy Derive conclusions.
eytang8@yahoo.com my parents are yelling
westcalxvandy 1+1=2
westcalxvandy ugh
westcalxvandy your logic sucks
eytang8@yahoo.com No, you're dumb
westcalxvandy but I can't point out it's flaw
eytang8@yahoo.com because there is none
westcalxvandy your definition of reasoning doesn't comply with a computers mathematical process
eytang8@yahoo.com my parents are yelling at me
eytang8@yahoo.com Reasoning is getting conclusions from information, isn't it?